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World Cup; Lost Again
Topic Started: Dec 2 2010, 03:35 PM (5,308 Views)
YazooArab
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I guess my question was rhetorical
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Setenza
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I'm already looking forward to Ian Wrights responce.


Qatar is a strange one, but then again, it'll be fun in a strange way.

It's far too far away though, 12 years?
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Two decisions as terrible as they were predictable. Russia is a hub of corruption that the World Cup bunfight will only serve to cultivate. Qatar is so totally opposed to liberal values that the tournament will have to be staged within the conditions of an ex-pat gated development that may as well be anywhere. These two venues were the obvious choices only on the basis that FIFA will squeeze out petrodollars via another flogging of football's atrophied soul. If God gave me one lightning bolt right now I'd happily use it on Sepp Bellend Blatter.
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Hamish
Dec 2 2010, 07:07 PM
Hmm, Qatar. One of Iran's allies. No wonder Obama is pissed off.

As for England, it's quite funny really. £15m spent (David Dein does 90,000 miles trying to secure votes). And they end up with 1 foreign vote - assuming the Englishman voted for his own country.

Wasn't the emir of qatar one of the people exposed in the recent wikileaks as advocating for the bombing of Irans nuclear facility. The rulers of most of the arabian penisula (sunni muslims) have no love of the shia persians.
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Art Vandelay
Dec 2 2010, 07:12 PM
YazooArab
Dec 2 2010, 08:09 PM
When do they start blaming the BBC for the documentary on FIFA corruption?

A cursory look around various news websites would suggest they already have.

And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done B)
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Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM
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Dec 2 2010, 07:12 PM
YazooArab
Dec 2 2010, 08:09 PM
When do they start blaming the BBC for the documentary on FIFA corruption?

A cursory look around various news websites would suggest they already have.

And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done B)

Hang on there.

Highlighting the corruption of a corrupt organisation led it to act in a corrupt manner? But, if the corruption had not been highlighted, the corrupt organisation would have acted in a less corrupt manner? That makes no sense.

Sharks don't bite you for telling them they're sharks. They bite you because they're sharks.
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Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM
And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done  B)

What gains would the BBC have made by the 2018 World Cup being in England? And how did the BBC use corruption to make those gains?
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Naebody
Dec 3 2010, 05:22 AM
Two decisions as terrible as they were predictable. Russia is a hub of corruption that the World Cup bunfight will only serve to cultivate. Qatar is so totally opposed to liberal values that the tournament will have to be staged within the conditions of an ex-pat gated development that may as well be anywhere. These two venues were the obvious choices only on the basis that FIFA will squeeze out petrodollars via another flogging of football's atrophied soul. If God gave me one lightning bolt right now I'd happily use it on Sepp Bellend Blatter.

Qatar is a frankly bizarre one. Twilight Zoney, even.

Russia is a good choice, I think, in the same way that the doubters poured scorn on the Beijing Olympics win. And if we can have Olympics and World Cups in bastions of corruption like the USA and China, then why not Russia?

Now, next thing, who's going to pay the most to avoid being in the Vladivostock-based group? B)
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Art Vandelay
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The media seems to be saying the following: Fifa is corrupt. this is a Bad Thing. Panorama said earlier this week that Fifa was corrupt. This, however, was a Bad Thing as well.
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Naebody
Dec 3 2010, 09:02 AM
Skeletor
Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM
Art Vandelay
Dec 2 2010, 07:12 PM
YazooArab
Dec 2 2010, 08:09 PM
When do they start blaming the BBC for the documentary on FIFA corruption?

A cursory look around various news websites would suggest they already have.

And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done B)

Hang on there.

Highlighting the corruption of a corrupt organisation led it to act in a corrupt manner? But, if the corruption had not been highlighted, the corrupt organisation would have acted in a less corrupt manner? That makes no sense.

Sharks don't bite you for telling them they're sharks. They bite you because they're sharks.

Highlighting the corruption of a corrupt organisation, at a time when you're looking to get something from them, is an idiotic way of gaining their favour.
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Skeletor
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The Eggman
Dec 3 2010, 10:56 AM
Skeletor
Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM
And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done  B)

What gains would the BBC have made by the 2018 World Cup being in England? And how did the BBC use corruption to make those gains?

BBC is a public service. We, the public, would gain a lot economically from hosting the World Cup.
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Dec 3 2010, 06:28 PM
The Eggman
Dec 3 2010, 10:56 AM
Skeletor
Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM
And probably quite rightfully. Exposing corruption at a time when you're using corruption to make substantial gains is a bit moronic. Ah well BBC, £15m down the shiter, job done  B)

What gains would the BBC have made by the 2018 World Cup being in England? And how did the BBC use corruption to make those gains?

BBC is a public service. We, the public, would gain a lot economically from hosting the World Cup.

Businesses would have made money. To say that the BBC would benefit from that is frankly nonsense.

In real terms, the BBC didn't have anything to gain from England hosting the World Cup.

If they had had vested interests, then more credit to them for showing the programme on principle.

Thanks for directly answering, though.
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By the way, was Lord Triesman part of the BBC. Lord
Triesman, who just before the World Cup, when chairman of the FA, accused Spain and Russia of match fixing in the World Cup in South Africa? Hardly a mention just now.
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Art Vandelay
Dec 3 2010, 02:10 PM
The media seems to be saying the following: Fifa is corrupt. this is a Bad Thing. Panorama said earlier this week that Fifa was corrupt. This, however, was a Bad Thing as well.

But the england team did all they could despite all those nasty and corrupt others. England are the only ones who weren't corrupt. That's why they didn't win! Or so they seem to be saying. It's getting a bit tired. All the 'Mr X said he'd vote for us', but he never. It sounds so naive.






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Setenza
Dec 3 2010, 11:57 PM
England are the only ones who weren't corrupt. That's why they didn't win! Or so they seem to be saying.

It does seem like that. Self-righteous bastards. If the English were as good at bribery as the others (they pretend they don't bribe, or are so naive to believe they don't) then they'd do better. Like diving. Their players do dive, but most of them badly.
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