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| findus | Nov 16 2010, 11:17 AM Post #31 |
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No, refusal extends their sentence. In another scenario not related to voting, imagine a society where everyone is in what we'd recognize as a non-comfy 'prison'. Release, and the length of your release, is wholly dependent on you committing crimes that are deemed severe enough (much the same as what we have now). Would you commit crimes to get out, even if you were only going to be on the outside with other serious criminals? Would probably mean leaving your family behind, unless you all took up serious crime. Would those let out want to get back in? After a few generations of people growing up seeing this system as the norm, would being 'let out' actually seem like a huge punishment, the same as prison is seen right now? etc etc etc.
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| Setenza | Nov 16 2010, 03:50 PM Post #32 |
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Knitting with only one needle
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I think Escape from New York was more fun than that system... |
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| gordonthearab | Nov 16 2010, 07:38 PM Post #33 |
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I don't think we'll be copying Russia. Russian jail to install sunbeds. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11723209 Tommyn Sheridan will be asking for them when he goes inside. |
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| Clarkie | Nov 16 2010, 09:15 PM Post #34 |
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Mac an t-stronaich
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We used to send a lot of convicts to the colonies (australia). As we don't have many outposts left we should send all our prisoners to the falklands, they are pretty big don't have much of a population and the residents there don't have the right to vote in uk elections and are not covered by the eu human rights law. Then once we have emptied the jails we can give the falklands to Argentina
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| Naebody | Nov 16 2010, 09:22 PM Post #35 |
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"Blimey, that's radical," I thought. Then I realised it wasn't. It's basically how feudal societies have worked. The world was full of walled villages where the punishment for transgressions was to be expelled. It was also, on a larger scale, what Britain did with Australia. I'm not sure, however, that any society has ever stated clearly that the benefits of membership are effectively imprisonment. The real reason convicts don't vote here, by the way, is because it'd monkey up our electoral system. My borough, for example, would become approximately one-third represented by residents of Wormwood Scrubs. Countries employing less lumpen voting systems tend to have no issue with giving prisoners the vote. (Eta: cross post with Clarkie. Apologies for diplodoction) |
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| Clarkie | Nov 16 2010, 09:30 PM Post #36 |
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Thats an interesting one I hadn't thought of that. Short of changing the electoral system I guess the only way to avoid it would be by giving prisoners the right to vote in there home consticuency or if "of no fixed abode" as alot of prisoners probably are then I don't know what would be done - vote in the area where they committed their offence
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| whatsthatonyourback | Nov 17 2010, 09:52 AM Post #37 |
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Expect crimewaves in marginal constituencies leading up to an election. |
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| YazooArab | Nov 17 2010, 01:31 PM Post #38 |
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No incarceration without representation!
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| whatsthatonyourback | Nov 17 2010, 05:11 PM Post #39 |
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Waldo Jeffers
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Are you prepared to go to prison for your beliefs? |
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| YazooArab | Nov 17 2010, 10:52 PM Post #40 |
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I'm not sure I believe in anything anymore. |
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| findus | Nov 18 2010, 01:21 AM Post #41 |
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Jerry Kerr
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Well, that's something to believe in at least. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5uamDMoW4o[/YOUTUBE] |
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| The Eggman | Nov 18 2010, 08:21 AM Post #42 |
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Tommy McLean
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Could've fooled me
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