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| Ivan | Nov 1 2010, 08:25 AM Post #16 |
F*cking plebs.
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He'l be 19 later this month. Is that really nowhere near old enough? |
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| gordonthearab | Nov 1 2010, 08:41 AM Post #17 |
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So how old is old enough for the SPL Housty 22,23, 25. |
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| Setenza | Nov 1 2010, 09:49 AM Post #18 |
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Does seem that way, which is frustrating. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that any player who has actaully made it into the first team generally gets into the team at about 18/19. |
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| Naebody | Nov 1 2010, 10:42 AM Post #19 |
Twat
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* sadface emoticon * I reiterate: the importance of entertainment is woefully underappreciated by those in charge of providing it. |
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| findus | Nov 1 2010, 12:02 PM Post #20 |
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It is a bit of a strange one. Motherwell didn't exactly hit the wall when they were forced to start fielding half a team of youngsters, so I'm not sure why we've been a bit reluctant to give some of our 17-19 year olds a run in recent years. Unless of course they really are scottish 2nd division material tops. Which would beg the question, why are they failing to progress from highly rated 15-16 year olds to not nearly ready for the spl-ers 2-3 years later? Seems a bit of a chicken and egg, catch 22 scenario. |
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| Homer | Nov 1 2010, 02:06 PM Post #21 |
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blimey, THAT i did not know  I assumed he was about 17... So, come on Housty, where's the spirit of "If you're good enough, you're old enough"? Goodie was thrown in to the mix when he was 16, before going on to become the SPL's youngest ever goalscorer (for a while) and look how he's doing now! |
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| Setenza | Nov 2 2010, 12:53 PM Post #22 |
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According to our website, in the 'First Team' we have: Scott Allan - 18 (nearly 19) - 0 appearance? Craig Hill - 19 - 1 appearance? Ryan Dow - 19 - 1 or 2 appearances? Ross McCord - 20 - 0 appearances? Johnny Russell - 20 - 9 appearances? Ryan McCord - 21 - 2 appearances? 1 striker, 3 attacking midfield, 1 midfield and one defender. But none are 'ready' it seems. |
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| Barca87 | Nov 2 2010, 01:44 PM Post #23 |
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Equally though, Levein made the point that he felt Goodie was brought into the first team too soon, and suffered from it as a result. Danny Swanson as well, took a few seasons to establish himself as well, and probably benefited from a belated introduction. Also, wee Jum used to play the youngsters for a wee spell before pulling them out the team almost regardless of form. The other thing I have noticed about our current crop is that quite a few are on the wee side, and given how agricultural some of the games against the bottom of the SPL sides can be, what will they learn other than how to be booted up in the air. |
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| Ivan | Nov 2 2010, 01:53 PM Post #24 |
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F*cking plebs.
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How to avoid/handle being booted up in the air? |
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| Setenza | Nov 2 2010, 02:24 PM Post #25 |
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Swanson was always around though, either starting the odd game, or being a used sub. I don't want to rush players, but we seem to be protecting them from something that a lot of other clubs don't. And Watson was introduced pretty early by Levein, bar injuries we'd have seen a lot more of him at 18/19 I think. To be honest, I don't expect many from that list to be first team players, not now, but when see the game at the weekend, with a team crying out for creativity, and we've got 4 (ok 2 since 2 are on loan) attacking players on the list, then it can get frustrating. Even more so the fact that Dow did very well in his couple of appearances before, and the two players on loan are scoring goals from midfield - another thing we badly need. |
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| Barca87 | Nov 2 2010, 02:43 PM Post #26 |
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I do take the point though, there seems to be a real reluctance to throw youngsters in. Last season between Dow, Hill and Hilson all made an impact, but nothing so far. |
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| Naebody | Nov 2 2010, 02:49 PM Post #27 |
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So is the SPL more agricultural than what's on offer in Forfar, Montrose and Airdrie? And didn't Swanson made his first-team debut less than 24 hours after signing (Hearts, 4-1)? And hasn't Craig Hill already been punted? Sure I read that somewhere. Seemed odd, given he did very well in his one first-team appearance. I think the wider issue here, in football as in pornography, is that punters like seeing new talent. Remember Paul Walker belting up the wing in a pre-season derby? Of course you do. It was brilliant entertainment. It was hope personified. Sure - it was also hope unfulfilled, and he has ended up at Irvine Meadow. But at least it was hope, which is better than the resignation required to support an unchanging first-XI of known quantities. |
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| Homer | Nov 2 2010, 03:08 PM Post #28 |
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Ah, I remember it well :rolleyes: 
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| Setenza | Nov 2 2010, 05:31 PM Post #29 |
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I read in another place (ok, EFF), that he's left to go to Uni. Not sure if true or not, but what was said. He did look good though, which is a shame. |
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| whatsthatonyourback | Nov 2 2010, 05:56 PM Post #30 |
Waldo Jeffers
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I'm bemused that Dow, Hilson and Smith have not had part to play this season considering they did well when we had no alternatives last season, especially as Dow and Hilson offer something we have been horribly lacking in the absence of Swanson and Conway. |
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