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Dundee FC; Melville wants out!
Topic Started: Sep 20 2010, 10:49 AM (6,026 Views)
Cobardon
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reekie
Oct 15 2010, 10:39 PM
I agree. The tangerine strip was the only thing of any note in that entire report.

It's undoubtedly fascinating WT. Unfortunately, I fear it is the first of many such stories to appear.
Football's disappeared down some freakish, dizzying rabbit-hole.
Grab some popcorn, that's my advice.

Hmm...a guy I was out with tonight who has had recent boardroom dealings with Tannadice, reckons United won't be too far behind if they can't sell a player or two in the next calendar year. Mind you, he is a Dundee fan...

I certainly wouldn't say it couldn't happen here though...it's worrying for all football fans the margins between success and abject failure, and those crowing at the demise of our neighbours would be well advised to think of that.
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reekie
Oct 15 2010, 10:58 PM
Billy was pretty candid, wasn't he. Quite an accusatory tone.
It may well get more interesting yet*.


Not surprising though - may aswell blame those running things - can't really blame anyone else.

Sure he'll manage to get his bbc stuff back again tho more easily than a lot of the players / other staff.
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Cobardon
Oct 16 2010, 12:19 AM
reekie
Oct 15 2010, 10:39 PM
I agree. The tangerine strip was the only thing of any note in that entire report.

It's undoubtedly fascinating WT. Unfortunately, I fear it is the first of many such stories to appear.
Football's disappeared down some freakish, dizzying rabbit-hole.
Grab some popcorn, that's my advice.

Hmm...a guy I was out with tonight who has had recent boardroom dealings with Tannadice, reckons United won't be too far behind if they can't sell a player or two in the next calendar year. Mind you, he is a Dundee fan...

I certainly wouldn't say it couldn't happen here though...it's worrying for all football fans the margins between success and abject failure, and those crowing at the demise of our neighbours would be well advised to think of that.

Seems fair enough - it wasn't that long ago we were getting rid of any players just for money's sake, doubt much has changed since then.
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Cobardon
Oct 15 2010, 11:19 PM
I certainly wouldn't say it couldn't happen here though...it's worrying for all football fans the margins between success and abject failure, and those crowing at the demise of our neighbours would be well advised to think of that.

Hang on hang on hang on.

It's easy to make doom-laden assumptions based on Dundee's failure. It's easy, but not terribly helpful.

Dundee didn't fail (again) because of the perilous state of football. The business failed because of some quite spectacularly boneheaded and/or irregular financial management.

Of course these are hard times (though, incidentally, do you remember any chairman saying ten years ago: "we are living through the golden years of fiscal wastefulness"). Operational break-even's probably not good enough to pacify Lloyds this season, which means a player sale or two would certainly be handy. If they don't happen, the next round of cost savings will have to be brutal. But would it mean United would need to seek administration? Not unless we're being lied to by the board, and I'd prefer to assume that we're not.
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Oct 16 2010, 12:41 AM
Seems fair enough - it wasn't that long ago we were getting rid of any players just for money's sake, doubt much has changed since then.

If United were that desperate, Conway would've been sold. And Severin wouldn't have been brought in.

The bitter Dundee fan is talking shite.
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Oct 16 2010, 09:41 PM
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Oct 16 2010, 12:41 AM
Seems fair enough - it wasn't that long ago we were getting rid of any players just for money's sake, doubt much has changed since then.

If United were that desperate, Conway would've been sold. And Severin wouldn't have been brought in.

The bitter Dundee fan is talking shite.

I'm not saying we're on the edge, just not that good. With more room to manueover as well.

Think we'll regret not selling conway as covered before, but sure we wanted to sell him.
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Setenza
Oct 16 2010, 10:32 PM
The Eggman
Oct 16 2010, 09:41 PM
Setenza
Oct 16 2010, 12:41 AM
Seems fair enough - it wasn't that long ago we were getting rid of any players just for money's sake, doubt much has changed since then.

If United were that desperate, Conway would've been sold. And Severin wouldn't have been brought in.

The bitter Dundee fan is talking shite.

I'm not saying we're on the edge, just not that good. With more room to manueover as well.

Think we'll regret not selling conway as covered before, but sure we wanted to sell him.

Well obviously we didn't want to sell him that much, otherwise we would have sold him.
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Ivan
Oct 16 2010, 11:15 PM
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Oct 16 2010, 10:32 PM
The Eggman
Oct 16 2010, 09:41 PM
Setenza
Oct 16 2010, 12:41 AM
Seems fair enough - it wasn't that long ago we were getting rid of any players just for money's sake, doubt much has changed since then.

If United were that desperate, Conway would've been sold. And Severin wouldn't have been brought in.

The bitter Dundee fan is talking shite.

I'm not saying we're on the edge, just not that good. With more room to manueover as well.

Think we'll regret not selling conway as covered before, but sure we wanted to sell him.

Well obviously we didn't want to sell him that much, otherwise we would have sold him.

Not that much, but still a fair bit, or at least enough to say that we did want to sell him. Or someone.



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Maybe it made no sense to sell him? £750k, Ayr get 20% of that, am sure Conway would have got a chunk of it as well. I don't know the full ins and outs of player transfers but am sure there must be other costs involved. After all they were sorted, am sure we'd have been left with a meagre sum that makes it worth keeping him playing for another season.
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A club that's in dire straits would be grateful for getting even £300k (which may well have been what it was after Ayr got their money etc). Plus Conway would have been off the wage bill.
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I'm guessing here, and I can't claim to know this as a fact. Admittedly, it is a bit 'out there' as a an assumption, but people inside the club may well have a better idea if we're in dire straits than those on this forum or friends of theirs. Just a guess you understand. Either way, off the wage bill or not, someone else would likely have been put on it to cover him. So no big difference there as I'm doubting he's on any kind of salary that will make or break United.
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I'm not all that confident about our future.

Things are fine now, and we're breaking even and paying down the big bank debt slowly. However, the team and club management is the best it's been since the late 80's. And still we're only breaking even. It wouldn't take much to put a spanner in the works. ST chucks it. We lose a couple of good players for nothing (Conway, Gomis for example) and the team slumps. Manager punted, series of haddies fail to get us back up the league.

Relegation would be an absolute disaster, and although it's not an immediate concern, there's not much between the Other Ten.
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Of course there is also the fact that we still own a substantial asset in the shape of our ground. No club is in rude health but relatively some, including United, remain viable and, if there is such a word, investable entities. We can in no way be compared with the crookedly run outfit across the road. I still have mixed feelings but I am increasingly tending towards thinking that there is only room for one top flight club from a small city ike Dundee.

Is this the time to talk merger/takeover? United buy Dundee for a few shekels and then rebrand as the Dundee City we originaly wished to become? A new era at a new stadium? A clean slate for both?

Nah I didn't think so.
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Oct 17 2010, 01:44 PM
I'm guessing here, and I can't claim to know this as a fact. Admittedly, it is a bit 'out there' as a an assumption, but people inside the club may well have a better idea if we're in dire straits than those on this forum or friends of theirs. Just a guess you understand.

So why do you bother speculating? :rolleyes:
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Most teams that merge take the colours from the previous teams to form the new kit (ICT took the blue from caley and red from thistle) So could you just imagine the compromise Dundee city strip, blue and tangerine stripes/hoops :o

Hope Dundee don't go to the wall if only to save Dens park from demolotion. It is the scene of some of our greatest triumphs two league cups and the league title were won there and if Dundee FC aren't around I can't see any future for it as a sports arena (greyhound racing maybe).

Anyway I noticed an interesting photo when I went to look at the dundee player profiles to see what players they had left.

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