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| yasser | Jan 7 2016, 05:06 PM Post #46 |
Ivan Golac
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Try checking out the Tele version of events. |
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| Naebody | Jan 7 2016, 06:24 PM Post #47 |
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As in this? Yup? |
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| yasser | Jan 7 2016, 07:08 PM Post #48 |
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Yup. |
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| Naebody | Jan 7 2016, 07:35 PM Post #49 |
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Good-o. Just out of curiosity ... What do people want Thompson to do? I know the folk on here represent only the sensible tip on an iceberg of stupidity. But perhaps one of us has been brave enough to look at Mad, or Fud, or wherever. Short of inventing a time machine (or passing control to a well-known and widely trusted billionaire lifetime supporter then walking into Broughty Ferry Bay in the style of Reggie Perrin, perhaps) is there anything being suggested that might appease them? |
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| yasser | Jan 7 2016, 08:36 PM Post #50 |
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Can't say about Fud but on Mad Lorraine Kelly some Yank doctor the shaktar oligarch and the local guys who put the money into the club last year were all suggested today. |
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| zico | Jan 7 2016, 10:17 PM Post #51 |
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I will buy the club add me to the list Mr Shit for Brains. |
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| Cobardon | Jan 8 2016, 12:34 AM Post #52 |
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Ok, you can add your name to the list of buyers. What are your intentions once you take over though? |
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| radger | Jan 8 2016, 07:21 PM Post #53 |
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Getting the case for optimism in before we win at the weekend, I'm far from convinced we'll go down. 11 points is a sizeable gap, but points wise that can be closed in 4 matches. Granted we have only had 2 wins all season but I wouldn't underestimate the effect of momentum. It's also worth remembering that the last team to stay in as bad as position as we are was the United team of 2000/01 and we were absolutely dire the first half of that season, far worse than we are now. For me one of the biggest factors we are where we are is that we have a losing mentality, rather than being a miles worse team than every other side in the league. If we were the worst team out there then our chances of putting together a run of results like we need would be a very long shot. Looking at the results since Mixu took over, there's been ten games, 7 have been defeats, 5 of which were by single goal margins (the other two being to 1st and 2nd). We led in 3 of those games as well as one of the 2 games we drew. That to me doesn't tell me we are the worst team in the league, but there is clearly a huge fragility there. A fragility that causes us to gets nervous when in the lead (and in front of goal, missed a tonne of easy chances this season) and dispirited when falling behind. One of the big problems and reasons for this has been the huge amount of inexperience in the team, from a combination of having lost senior players and injuries to other experienced players. Paul Paton wasn't popular with everyone but what he did do well was provide a lot of protection to the defence when he played, something the young players this season haven't done. The goalkeeping situation has also been massively detrimental with mistakes from all our young goalkeepers costing us points. I'd also argue that the influence of a goalkeeper extends far beyond dealing with shots and crosses. A goalkeeper should be able to direct and command his defenders to deal with danger, positioning, awareness and such, something Zwick and Sromnik haven't done to any extent whatsoever. Despite his mistake in the derby, I am optimistic that Kawashima and the extensive and high level experience he has should be able to help us considerably. That said it would be naive to think that our defensive problems will all suddenly be solved. Dillon while a great servant is past his best, Durnan is far too error prone, Morris seemed forever sidelined by injuries and Gunning hasn't had a great time of it since returning (and I agree he's a massive fud). Cross a ball into our box and we are all over the place. I wonder if that was part of the reason to go to a back 3, but it doesn't seem to have changed anything. For me a Darren Dods type figure would be massive for us. Someone who will lead and organise and win a header or two. That'll do me. Remains our big weakness by a distance at the moment just now though. Looking at the squad just now there are players there that can get us results, Mckay is always a goal threat, there are solid (if unspectacular) players such as Rankin, Erskine and Mcgowan and 4 recent signings that have played at a high level, Demel, Kawashima, Pongolle (if he is ever fit) and now Riske. There's something of a spine there. And hopefully that can take some of the burden off the shoulders of the young boys who have suffered this season having not had that. Souttar and Fraser have loads of talent and are definitely capable of being matchwinners, Spittal can be too. I don't see any reason why we couldn't beat any of the teams from 4-5th down on any given day. Killie are rubbish, they're definitely the most likely team to catch. We'll have to play all the bottom 6 teams twice more, there's 30 points available just against them. If we can grab a couple of wins, suddenly there's a bit of momentum, a bit of a lift and a bit of belief. The second half of the 00/01 season was one of my favourite ever as a United fan. Part of that was due to how dire the team had been in the first half of the season and yet we managed to turn that round. 2 results and suddenly everyone's behind the team again and it can be done! I believe!!! 
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| Setenza | Jan 8 2016, 09:30 PM Post #54 |
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I agree to an extent, but we are running out of time to find that momentum. 2 league wins back to back and I'm sure we'll all be feeling more positive. 3 out of the next 4 should be winnable (Killie, Partick, Hamilton) and the other against Celtic should be a low pressure chance to put in a good performance against a struggling team. If we don't pick up points from that run, it's pretty much over. All season we've missed every opportunity to turn things around (new manager, new signings, winnable games on paper). Maybe this month will be the month that changes it. |
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| Barca87 | Jan 8 2016, 10:08 PM Post #55 |
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I agree there is a chance we could catch Kilmarnock, but that then leaves the frankly horrific prospect of playing the Huns in a play off. I think I'd almost rather we went down automatically than go through that. |
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| Naebody | Jan 8 2016, 11:10 PM Post #56 |
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Crazy talk. A Huns playoff is the best possible option. It'd mean we've found momentum and they'd lost it. The pantomime around the game would be great, as the pressure would be disproportionately on them. Plus, it'd pit a Rangers team of youths and journeymen against a United team of highly paid mercenaries. How many times over the decades have those circumstances have been reversed. Good post Radger, by the way. Agree with every word. |
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| Cobardon | Jan 8 2016, 11:32 PM Post #57 |
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It is a good post, that. I've highlighted the above bit to point out that while I hadn't really thought about it our biggest miss this season has not been the often excellent but liable to drop out of the game in tougher fixtures Armstrong and GMS or the hot-cold Ciftci but actually the dependable but unspectacular Fojut, who probably held us together last season more than we realised at the time. I'd fully expect us to be meeting Hibs in a playoff if we end 11th, by the way. And if any team is likely to screw up when the pressure is really on it's them. It'll be like two cup finals after all. Our record may not be great in finals but they're one of the few who can beat us for runner-up medals. Edited by Cobardon, Jan 8 2016, 11:36 PM.
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| TheDean | Jan 8 2016, 11:51 PM Post #58 |
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Idle chat about play- offs ignores the fact that we are going to go down first , right away, in last place. By miles. |
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| Cobardon | Jan 9 2016, 10:51 AM Post #59 |
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You're right of course. I'd go further than that, though. We are not going to win another game this season, our 'excellent chairman' will pull the plug on the finances, we'll need to go part time will get relegated again and then into administration then be declared bankrupt and cease to exist. After this, all of our entire families will be killed in a car crash and the bodies never found, thus denying us even proper burials. |
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| Naebody | Jan 9 2016, 01:29 PM Post #60 |
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I find it highly unlikely that a single car crash could kill the extended families of all five of us. |
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