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| vvhatsthatonyourback | Feb 27 2015, 11:17 AM Post #31 |
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Having reviewed the Ciftci incident on a shonky wifi connection, I find the evidence inconclusive. Could be a rather burly lean over the shoulder of the ICT player. I suppose there will be other camera angles though. Outrageous shove by Ciftci in the first half that facilitated a chance for Dow that that the ref totally missed. He could have been booked for that. I would have. He certainly likes to use his arms does our Nadir. |
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| Naebody | Feb 27 2015, 12:55 PM Post #32 |
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Twat
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Hm. Looks to me like, after an unremarkable coming together ... ![]() ... some considerable distance off the ball ... ![]() ... Ciftci changes direction specifically to lamp his marker. ![]() Remember when we dumped Victor Ferreyra for spitting? We're not a million miles away from needing a similar approach for Ciftci. |
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| yasser | Feb 27 2015, 01:24 PM Post #33 |
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Ivan Golac
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Steady, its hardly the worst foul of the season. In fact there were many worse fouls on the night that the bloke allegedly being a Referee failed to either spot or take action on. Personally I think a yellow at most was about right. If the ICT player hadn't reacted the way he did it would have been forgotten about all together. A word about ICT. They play some nice football and make some nice moves forward but they haven't lost the part of their game that seemed to flourish under Butcher. Continually trying to noise up the opposition and take advantage of any aftermath. Shift in particular seemed to be the target throughout the 90 minutes. Sad that he eventually fell for it. The Ref. Well Saturday past we saw a master class in deplorable inept Refereeing from Willie Collum and I thought as I left the ground thank god we don't see reffing like that every week. Then Tuesday we saw if anything a worse performance, probably one of the worst I've seen in 55 years of going to Tannadice. Edited by yasser, Feb 27 2015, 01:26 PM.
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| Naebody | Feb 27 2015, 01:44 PM Post #34 |
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Twat
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Whataboutery isn't a defence. Every game I've watched, Ciftci could justifiably have received a red card. This foul -- as in, deliberately elbowing someone in their Wernickle's Area for no obvious reason, which to me looks a clear red -- wasn't even his worst of the night. ![]() It's rank hypocrisy to excuse this stuff just because he's talented. We wouldn't if he were wearing any other colour of shirt. |
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| Cobardon | Feb 27 2015, 01:56 PM Post #35 |
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Uncle Smurf
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It's true...he's a real talent -witness his back heel straight into Dow's path the same night- but the most talented are often the most flawed. It's just like that Gary Glitter dude, really. |
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| yasser | Feb 27 2015, 02:01 PM Post #36 |
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Ivan Golac
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Where in my post did I say Shifty was innocent? At the same time if you are suggesting a player should be red carded for a simple push in the back we'll have games being abandoned due to lack of numbers left on the field of play. From where I was sitting in the GFL, yes Shifty pushed him but the big burly ICT thug made a meal of going down as if he'd been struck by a tornado. Something they did rather often throughout the game. Were you there? |
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| Morvant's Finest | Feb 27 2015, 02:21 PM Post #37 |
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Tommy McLean
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Yasser, I wasn't there to witness the fouls by the ICT players either, but when you watch the replay in full screen he's clearly elbowed/led with his arm into the back of the ICT player's head/upper shoulders. The ball's not even in the box yet. Not sure he/we can have any complaints unfortunately.
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| Setenza | Feb 27 2015, 03:02 PM Post #38 |
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Knitting with only one needle
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As much as we can complain about Ciftci's overly aggressive play, I don't think we would have gotten anything from that match had he and a couple of others not taken a robust approach to challenges. He's not going to change that aspect of his play. He just needs to learn how to do it in a more subtle way. Both ICT and St Johnstone players recently were no less aggressive, but not quite as foolish. Except the guy that was sent off. Edited by Setenza, Feb 27 2015, 03:03 PM.
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| Conan the Destroyer | Feb 27 2015, 03:25 PM Post #39 |
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I prefer it when we're pish
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Your clips demonstrate that the foul on Dixon happened before the Ciftci barging and the game should've restarted with a free-kick to United on the left, not one to ICT in the box. |
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| Naebody | Feb 27 2015, 03:41 PM Post #40 |
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Twat
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True also. |
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| Cobardon | Feb 27 2015, 03:46 PM Post #41 |
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Uncle Smurf
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Except that the ref didn't give a foul for the barge in the box, he gave one against Dixon for his grabbing hold of the ICT player after the (fair) tackle. ICT then took it from in the box, and the ref didn't seem to mind. He probably had other things on his mind by then, to be fair. |
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| vvhatsthatonyourback | Feb 27 2015, 04:42 PM Post #42 |
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I have a very sore throat today and I can't help but wonder if I had a visit from Mr Ciftci whilst I slept. |
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