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What is going to go wrong?; Too cheery for Arabs right now.
Topic Started: Dec 9 2013, 11:21 AM (5,656 Views)
reekie
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Tom_Boland
Jan 25 2016, 04:14 PM
yasser
Jan 25 2016, 09:49 AM
Cob, no surprises most Dundonians believe the Law is an extinct volcano. School kids in Dundee have been told this is the case going back to... well, as long as there has been schools. :hat:

I was also told at school that there was a big battle between the Scots and the Picts involving King Keneth MacAlpine near to where our school was. That's why we now have Kings Cross Circle and the Kingsway. Seemingly historians now cast some doubt on this but that's another story...
Funny you should say that yasser. I've an old map of Dundee from 1901, and it shows the site of the battle to be roughly where the Tesco call centre is just North of the Kingsway. As you say McAlpine Road and all that.
Any chance you could take a photo and post it in the 'Maps' thread, Tom?
Don't worry if not.
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The map concerned is available online m8.

Zoom into the area to the East of Camperdown Park. 9th Century Battle.

Edited to say. Oops just realised the thread you were talking about is in the Off-Topics area.
Edited by Tom_Boland, Jan 25 2016, 08:03 PM.
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Am I right in thinking that we are having a pointless debate about the volcanic status of the Law hill?

Really why does it matter?
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zico
Jan 25 2016, 10:17 PM
Am I right in thinking that we are having a pointless debate about the volcanic status of the Law hill?

Really why does it matter?
Nah, I was having that pointless debate. Everyone else was mocking me having it.

Anyway, we've moved on to medieval battles now. Who knows where we go from there?

Isn't that one of the joys of this site? :hat:
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Indeed.
*sighs contentedly*
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Tom_Boland
Jan 25 2016, 08:01 PM
The map concerned is available online m8.

Zoom into the area to the East of Camperdown Park. 9th Century Battle.

Edited to say. Oops just realised the thread you were talking about is in the Off-Topics area.
Braw. Cheers.
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reekie
Jan 26 2016, 03:23 AM
Tom_Boland
Jan 25 2016, 08:01 PM
The map concerned is available online m8.

Zoom into the area to the East of Camperdown Park. 9th Century Battle.

Edited to say. Oops just realised the thread you were talking about is in the Off-Topics area.
Braw. Cheers.
My Granparents live near the "Stone Circle" area of Charleston and I spent a lot of time there as a kid, so it's amazing to see how undeveloped it was as recently as the mid 1800s. I know the housing is all modern schemes, but it's still a surprise.
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It is sparse, isn't it? Though Lochee was very densely populated even then.
I guess this is at the height of urbanisation and the end of rural Scots life for most.

Like you, the areas I know best (St Marys, Ardler, Downfield) are little more than fields at this point. I can just about pinpoint where I lived with my folks, on the corner of Americanmuir Road, and where they are now, just off Gilly Burn Road.

So, is the battle site north of the Kingsway, do we think? Or where the Dunsinane Industrial Estate was/is?
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reekie
Jan 26 2016, 09:48 AM
It is sparse, isn't it? Though Lochee was very densely populated even then.
I guess this is at the height of urbanisation and the end of rural Scots life for most.

Like you, the areas I know best (St Marys, Ardler, Downfield) are little more than fields at this point. I can just about pinpoint where I lived with my folks, on the corner of Americanmuir Road, and where they are now, just off Gilly Burn Road.

So, is the battle site north of the Kingsway, do we think? Or where the Dunsinane Industrial Estate was/is?
Reeks, when I was a kid the area where the now closed Tesco delivery centre is built on was a small holding and we were told at school that this was the supposed site of the battle. The Bore Stone, marked with a cross where the King's
standard was raised was moved from it's original position (where Kings Cross Circle was built, now replaced with fly overs) to beside Camperdown house. Our school was into this story big time as it's name was Macalpine Primary with Macalpine Road running past it. So yes the battle is supposed to have taken place north of the Kingsway, but only just.
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Jan 25 2016, 08:01 PM
Ooh, that's fascinating. So Lochee was for linen factory workers and entirely separate from Dundee, which was mostly a scattering of gigantic mansions (owned, I assume, by the people who owned the linen factories). I kinda knew this already, but didn't really process the information.

Also: Dog Bank?
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Forget the boring battles, the real fun is to be had just further north, where the dragon was killed.
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Jan 26 2016, 10:30 AM
Forget the boring battles, the real fun is to be had just further north, where the dragon was killed.
Did it live in a volcano?
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Setenza
Jan 26 2016, 10:30 AM
Forget the boring battles, the real fun is to be had just further north, where the dragon was killed.
The dragon that lived in the volcano? Sad news. RIP.

Anyone want to tell me about Dog Bank?
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Jan 26 2016, 10:32 AM
Setenza
Jan 26 2016, 10:30 AM
Forget the boring battles, the real fun is to be had just further north, where the dragon was killed.
Did it live in a volcano?
Wikipedia says so.

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Jan 26 2016, 10:34 AM
Setenza
Jan 26 2016, 10:30 AM
Forget the boring battles, the real fun is to be had just further north, where the dragon was killed.
The dragon that lived in the volcano? Sad news. RIP.

Anyone want to tell me about Dog Bank?
Yes, it's long gone. Buried under millions of tons (metric or Imperial) of Dundee refuse. Dundee Airport perhaps should be called Dog Bank Airport.
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