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| whatsthatonyourback | Nov 2 2011, 10:21 AM Post #31 |
Waldo Jeffers
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Just testing. I'll let you away with it this time. |
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| Cobardon | Nov 2 2011, 11:30 AM Post #32 |
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Shelly Duvall. If you can think of a more physically unappealing female lead I'll be keen to hear who she is. Assumedly we're also forgetting that Glenda Jackson was one of the top actresses of her generation and even did a romantic comedy or two. Glenn Close was certainly cast for her sex appeal in 'Fatal Attraction' surely, despite being a bit of a munter. Barbra Streisand. Meryl Streep. Up to date...Tilda - lest we forget - Swinton. Great actress but physically...well, no. You wouldn't, would you? Emma Thompson too for that matter...she's not ugly, but certainly not anything you wouldn't get on any high street. None of these women would turn heads anyway, were they not movie stars. |
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| findus | Nov 2 2011, 11:48 AM Post #33 |
Jerry Kerr
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I'm quite partial to the odd turbo-wank over the aptly named Hillarys Wank, not classically beautiful but sexy as wank. That, and she'd be handy in a stramash.  Homer, can you do me the smiley honours, please. Edited by findus, Nov 2 2011, 11:56 AM.
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| findus | Nov 2 2011, 11:54 AM Post #34 |
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I'd also like to throw Jodie Foster's name in there for our celebration of Mordorwegian leading ladies. All those spikey, angular, sharp features 
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| Naebody | Nov 2 2011, 12:43 PM Post #35 |
Twat
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Independent lead or Hollywood supporting cast. She's 50 and has never, to my knowledge, fronted a potential blockbuster in the same way you'd expect Zach Galifianakis or Larry David to. See also Frances McDormand, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Joan Cusack.
From another generation, where things were a bit more sane. When was the last time any of these people had their names on a holiday season poster?
Note, I said pre-menopausal.
Marmite, sure, but a hundred obsessive stalkers can't all be wrong.
f*ck off.
You presume wrong. For women it's essentially the definition. Still nil nil. |
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| Ivan | Nov 2 2011, 12:51 PM Post #36 |
F*cking plebs.
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 Man, she's twelve and a half years old. |
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| Cobardon | Nov 2 2011, 02:09 PM Post #37 |
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I can see those goalposts ever shifting. If the deal is that a rather average looking woman can't co-star in a Michael Bay flick then you're correct. But that wasn't what you said, nor implied. McDormand is almost the exact equivalent of Philip Seymour Hoffman, right down to the Coen roles (though he's probably not cast because he's shagging one of them*). *Probably. |
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| Naebody | Nov 2 2011, 03:11 PM Post #38 |
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There's one notable difference. Hoffman is usually a good each-way for "best actor" when the ceremonies come around, whereas McDormond is nearly always found in the "best supporting actress" envelope. Why? Don't assume the goalposts are where they're not. All I'm saying is that Hollywood favours physically attractive women in a way that it doesn't with men. This is hardly a radical, challenging or original observation. See the "average Joe gets improbably hot woman" trope, which is the backbone of the US broadcast media whether it's a film, sitcom, news show or cartoon. |
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| Morvant's Finest | Nov 2 2011, 04:17 PM Post #39 |
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Speaking of Peter Griffin, he once described SJP as having "a face like a foot", undoubtedly harsh, but still makes me laugh heartily. The distinction between actors like Glenda Jackson and Sissy Spacek being from another era is a good one to make Naebs, very hard to think of any recent "unconventional looking" actresses in similar leading roles. BTW while we're on feminist movie principles, anybody heard of the Bechdel Test for female characters in movies? Supposedly very few films pass the test... 
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| The Eggman | Nov 2 2011, 04:32 PM Post #40 |
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Why f*ck off? Do you mean that they're clearly very attractive women regardless of their celebrity stature? There's generally accepted...rating of a person's looks, and then an individual rating. So if you polled 100 people about Brad Pitt, say, then perhaps he would receive (based purely on looks) an 8/10. There will be individuals who aren't particularly taken by his looks, and rate him 5/10. Obviously some of those ratings would change over time, as people's looks change. Either way, neither Swank nor Thurman would get near the top 'fittest' women in terms of a general rating. Anyway, for me, neither are better than 5/10. There are women that you could look at and say you'd want to swap saliva with them without even swapping a word. Many guys would happily do that with women who they rate as 5/10. Personally, I'd be wanting higher than that for anything not involving conversation. Jenny Agutter, in American Werewolf in London, for instance, could be mute and I'd still want to swap a copious amount of spit with her. Or Jessica Lange in King Kong. But for me to exchange oral bacteria with Uma Thurman looks, then I'd need to get to know her. |
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| The Eggman | Nov 2 2011, 04:34 PM Post #41 |
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Would you say she's very attractive in Sophie's Choice, or The Deerhunter (desperate situations and characters notwithstanding)? |
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| The Eggman | Nov 2 2011, 04:39 PM Post #42 |
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To an extent. Look at the success of Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Keanu Reeves*, George Clooney and Tom Cruise - all of them more than cringeworthy, and none of them with five percent of the acting ability of far less successful actors who will never get a leading role. *Keanu f*cking Reeves. Jesus. |
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| Naebody | Nov 2 2011, 04:56 PM Post #43 |
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Twat
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Pish. |
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| Morvant's Finest | Nov 2 2011, 04:59 PM Post #44 |
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Tommy McLean
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Renee Zelwegger? |
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| Cobardon | Nov 2 2011, 05:04 PM Post #45 |
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That simply isn't true, though. Both have had the one notable lead role (which both won best actor for) and a screed of nominations for 'best supporting' across the awards lists. |
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