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Houston; Support?
Topic Started: Oct 26 2011, 09:45 AM (5,189 Views)
whatsthatonyourback
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findus
Oct 27 2011, 10:24 AM
I've mentioned before, last season we finished so high on the back of numerous late late shows, without which we wouldn't have been much higher than we are now. This season it seems like we're missing barrowloads of chances while leaking goals we shouldn't be leaking. Perhaps the defensive work of Gomis and Buaben giving the team a core stability is what we're missing. Along with Dillon and Goodroy. And Conway.

Meh, reset the season and we could easily be 3rd by now.
Agreed - but you forget about the crucial factor me and my fist of fury played in most of those late comebacks. Arf.

We were good enough to get out of jail repeatedly, but we should not have been in that position most of the time. We had a really good squad. Now our squad isn't as good, although still easily good enough for top 6 and to be competing for 3rd, yet our results have been hopeless. We've chucked points away all season - we've rarely been outplayed, vistims of bad luck or subjected to crucial moments of brilliance by the opposition - we just haven't got the points we should have. That is a bad, bad sign.
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Oct 27 2011, 10:29 AM
I'm not convinced we have the third best squad in the league. Perhaps with a fit and on form Swanson and before losing Goodwillie but not now.The depth is practically non-existent and there are positions in the team where the first choice players are no better than average.
What then? 4th best? 5th? 10th?
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whatsthatonyourback
Oct 27 2011, 10:30 AM
Ivan
Oct 27 2011, 10:29 AM
I'm not convinced we have the third best squad in the league. Perhaps with a fit and on form Swanson and before losing Goodwillie but not now.The depth is practically non-existent and there are positions in the team where the first choice players are no better than average.
What then? 4th best? 5th? 10th?
I don't know. Better than Hibs and Aberdeen worse than Hearts and Motherwell.

If Houston can get a grip of the team then I'd expect us to challenge for a top six place. I don't expect us to be anywhere near third.
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whatsthatonyourback
Oct 27 2011, 09:57 AM
What the Sun sets up, the Record must shitbag.

Though, in truth, the statement is non-committal. The headline should really be "Dundee United dismiss as speculation speculation over Houston's future" ...

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Dundee United dismiss speculation over manager Peter Houston's future at Tannadice

DUNDEE UNITED have dismissed reports that manager Peter Houston is facing the sack as "simply speculation."

The Tannadice side have endured a difficult run of results, which sees them sit third bottom of the SPL with just two league wins so far this season.

Reports suggest a question mark now hangs over Houston's position following United's midweek Scottish Communities League Cup exit to Irn-Bru First Division side Falkirk.
A statement from Dundee United read: "The club have no comment to make on what is simply speculation and rumour regarding the manager's position.

"Everyone at the club is fully committed to Saturday's game against Dunfermline and trying to get the club further up the SPL table."
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Oct 27 2011, 12:13 PM
whatsthatonyourback
Oct 27 2011, 09:57 AM
What the Sun sets up, the Record must shitbag.

Though, in truth, the statement is non-committal. The headline should really be "Dundee United dismiss as speculation speculation over Houston's future" ...

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Dundee United dismiss speculation over manager Peter Houston's future at Tannadice

DUNDEE UNITED have dismissed reports that manager Peter Houston is facing the sack as "simply speculation."

The Tannadice side have endured a difficult run of results, which sees them sit third bottom of the SPL with just two league wins so far this season.

Reports suggest a question mark now hangs over Houston's position following United's midweek Scottish Communities League Cup exit to Irn-Bru First Division side Falkirk.
A statement from Dundee United read: "The club have no comment to make on what is simply speculation and rumour regarding the manager's position.

"Everyone at the club is fully committed to Saturday's game against Dunfermline and trying to get the club further up the SPL table."
Sounds like it's on then. Club could have said "That is bollocks. Housty is here for ages yet and we have no plans to replace him" but instead issue the non-denial denial "all speculation" trope.

He's a goner.
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Oct 27 2011, 09:06 AM
One of the reasons you won Poster of the Year is because you did put in the effort. Not the only reason, but one of the reasons. If you had too many other obligations that meant you couldn't post often*, then you wouldn't have had as much impact.

*Eg if you were posting only as much as Cob, I doubt you'd have won. Obviously that doesn't mean that you won purely because of volume of posts, but like it or not, you did make an effort. :smack:
Lolz you said tits.
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He's had to watch a very good team walk away and been given virtually nothing with which to replace them. I don't blame him. Nobody else would have done any better.

I had to look at a colleague's copy The Sun cos this network doesn't allow access to shit like that, and there was a story about United "raging" which SFA over the "tapping-up" of Cathro.
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First thought was like Yasser, how can you blame the Manager for a loss where the team had by far the majority of the chances and went out on the lottery that is penalty kicks. But successful teams with good managers do take their chances, don't give away silly goals and have the mental fortitude to win penalty shoot-outs.

So if we keep underperforming for much longer it's difficult not to see Houston coming under increasing pressure. Yes, he's had to endure the loss of key players, but the potential in our squad (I say potential because it's evident major players are currently underperforming) should have us much higher up the league and able to see off Falkirk at home in the LC.

Hopefully we can go on a run of decent results and the team and management can gain some confidence in their abilities again.
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Conan the Destroyer
Oct 27 2011, 12:44 PM
He's had to watch a very good team walk away and been given virtually nothing with which to replace them. I don't blame him. Nobody else would have done any better.

I had to look at a colleague's copy The Sun cos this network doesn't allow access to shit like that, and there was a story about United "raging" which SFA over the "tapping-up" of Cathro.
There is, yeah, though it's not online. I'll chuck it in the other thread.
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Oct 27 2011, 12:13 PM
whatsthatonyourback
Oct 27 2011, 09:57 AM
What the Sun sets up, the Record must shitbag.

Though, in truth, the statement is non-committal. The headline should really be "Dundee United dismiss as speculation speculation over Houston's future" ...

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Dundee United dismiss speculation over manager Peter Houston's future at Tannadice

DUNDEE UNITED have dismissed reports that manager Peter Houston is facing the sack as "simply speculation."

The Tannadice side have endured a difficult run of results, which sees them sit third bottom of the SPL with just two league wins so far this season.

Reports suggest a question mark now hangs over Houston's position following United's midweek Scottish Communities League Cup exit to Irn-Bru First Division side Falkirk.
A statement from Dundee United read: "The club have no comment to make on what is simply speculation and rumour regarding the manager's position.

"Everyone at the club is fully committed to Saturday's game against Dunfermline and trying to get the club further up the SPL table."
Oh dear.
That looks exactly like something you'd see in the Observer Sport's said&done column.
Right before it says, 'Three days later: sacked.'...
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reekie
Oct 27 2011, 08:14 AM
Naebody
Oct 26 2011, 10:10 PM
findus
Oct 26 2011, 07:52 PM
For arguments sake, if he were to go and we needed a replacement, which member of The A-Team in their heyday would you most like in as a replacement, and why?
Now THAT's a good question.

Hannibal would be the obvious choice; a charismatic leader who can bring a disparate group together and encourage them to deliver by using the sparse resources. BA's technical knowledge would be a boon to sorting out the zonal marking system, though his flight phobia's not useful in the unlikely event of European away games. Face might be handy for media relations while Murdock ... Well, we've tried that already. He won the cup but it quickly went to shit next season. In conclusion, it's a stupid question and I refuse to be drawn into this nonsense.
God, I loved the A-Team!

I had Face as chairman. Good-looking, suave and, given his penchant for fast cars and hand-made shoes, evidently money savvy.
Hannibal's definitely our Director of Football, for the reasons outlined above, with BA left to drill those fools on the pitch into some semblance of a unit.
I'd have Murdoch doing tannoy and half-time cheerleading.
Actually, wasn't he always in a cheerleader's uniform in the credits?
Or did I dream that...?
I was thinking BA as manager to scare the living daylights out of the players while also bringing technical excellence, Wee Jim style, Face as head coach so that we have an effective 'good guy, bad guy' thing going on. Hannibal as Chairman, and yes, excellent call on Murdoch on the tannoy and cheerleading, along with Face's harem to cheer everyone the fcuk up :rock:

And the A-Team anthem as our new goal-scoring music! :banjmp:
Edited by findus, Oct 27 2011, 03:07 PM.
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Forget the rubbish A Team, get the mission impossible team in. Our rivals would be scoring goals for us without know it, referee's would be our chairman with a rubber mask on, while the woman stands around distractingly for all the players.
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Holy shit. Dunno if this is another foot-in-mouth incident or something thornier. Whichever way, I doubt it's done his prospects much good.

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“I haven't spoken to the chairman,” [Houston] said. “I have read the reports in the newspapers, I've had calls about it.

“If it's true that the chairman does want to release me from my contract, I can look back with pride on my record. My record is second only to Jim McLean of all the managers in the history of Dundee United, I believe.

“We've finished third [in the league], we have finished fourth, we have dropped the overdraft from over £6 million to over £4 million.

“With all these cutbacks we have got the team into Europe twice running for the first time since the early 80s, since Paul Hegarty's time as a player.

“I would put my record against any United manager, except perhaps Jim McLean because he was there a long, long time.

“If it is my time [to go], if it's true then I know that I can walk out that door with my head held high.”

Houston said that he had been anticipating a call from Thompson following the cup defeat to Falkirk. He said that if he did, he expected to have the chairman’s support as he attempts to turn the club’s season around.

“If I am talking to the chairman I will put my record and the facts to him,” he insisted.

“However, we may be jumping the gun here because I haven't spoken to him. I thought I might have heard from him yesterday but I didn't.

“I look at other managers in the SPL who have been given criticism recently and every time I have seen the chairman of that particular club come out and back them.

“I would expect the chairman of Dundee United to do the same.”


To which I feel we have to add a ....

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The lighting in that .gif is beautiful. The stuff of an artist.
Ah, them were the days.


edit - Oh yeah. If only there were courses available for those unused to media interaction....
Oh, and if Thomson is indeed returning for 'urgent talks', then he's bonkers.
Edited by reekie, Oct 27 2011, 05:21 PM.
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It's been sitting in my DVD pile for... yes, five years now. The right moment has never seemed to have come up to crack open such a classic. I see it as the Lafite-Rothschild / Tennents-with-the-girlie-photos-on-the-back of my movie cellar, I almost don't want to watch it for the fear of being 'post seen it and never to see it for the first time again'.

If you want to feel a pantbulge about lighting, can I cast you in the direction of the extraordinary In the Mood For Love, Wang Kar Wei's unsurpassed (as far as I'm concerned) lighting piece in modern cinema.
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