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| Alpha | Oct 4 2011, 10:24 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241 just curious as to what the thoughts are here. |
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| Ivan | Oct 4 2011, 10:29 AM Post #2 |
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F*cking plebs.
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I suspect this will see foreign prices rise rather than UK prices fall. |
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| Morvant's Finest | Oct 4 2011, 11:29 AM Post #3 |
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Tommy McLean
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There's a good article on the potential implications written before the judgement by a football lawyer who's studied the case closely - http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/09/4th-october-premier-league-broadcasting-d-day/
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| Morvant's Finest | Oct 4 2011, 11:41 AM Post #4 |
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Tommy McLean
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This guy's all over it on Twitter - http://twitter.com/sportingintel |
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| Naebody | Oct 4 2011, 11:44 AM Post #5 |
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Twat
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Though it was written before the judgement, so misses the key cave-in. Here's how it works: 1- You can't ban the sale of foreign decoders. Obviously. European free trade and all that. 2- Matches themselves are not copyrighted because they are not the "intellectual creation" of the Premier League. 3- However, everything surrounding the match retains local copyright. That last point is extremely important. All the graphics, video sequences, branding, theme music etc need explicit permission to broadcast. And in the interpretation of what's copyrighted, it seems everything's up for grabs: we may be in the odd position where the live action's not protected but the action replays are. Whichever way, watching the copyrighted material with a foreign decoder means you're breaking the law. As a result, it becomes relatively simple for Sky to protect its footprint. All Sky has to do is put a constant layer of copyrighted screen junk into the shared transmission feed. This may not be a perfect solution, but it's good enough to create another legal fudge ahead of the 2012-13 rights renegotiation. |
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| Morvant's Finest | Oct 4 2011, 12:40 PM Post #6 |
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Tommy McLean
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You're right in saying that the broadcasting of matches in pubs can be restricted because of the copyrighted elements like the graphics and music etc Naebs. But on initial reading it looks like that part of the judgement only relates to broadcasting the game to the public and not individual consumers. This Guardian article sums up things as they stand and includes the following -
So although broadcasting in pubs could still be restricted by the EPL the ruling certainly has the potential to have a serious impact on the value and shape of future contracts that are negotiated? |
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| Naebody | Oct 4 2011, 12:59 PM Post #7 |
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Twat
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Yes. We're looking at a much lower value on the non-domestic rights for 2012-13 onwards. But that contract value is chickenfeed anyway, in the scheme of things, and I won't be even slightly surprised if Sky decide that they'll just not sell on live rights outside the most valuable footprint. Meanwhile, the copyright/non copyright ruling opens up an entire lawyer's wardrobe of grey areas to fight over for the next 18 months. Anyone calling the death of Sky on this is very much mistaken. The ruling is, in truth, relatively positive for its prospects (a fact recognised by the money: BSkyB shares are down 1.75%, compared with a FTSE 100 down 2.7%). ETA: just checked: Continental European rights sell for ~£100m a year. BSkyB's turnover is nearly £7bn a year. If the latter's at risk you sacrifice the former. It's hardly a tough decision. Edited by Naebody, Oct 4 2011, 01:15 PM.
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| Morvant's Finest | Oct 4 2011, 01:12 PM Post #8 |
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Tommy McLean
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As you say Naebody the copyrighted material angle will keep lawyers busy for a while. This article from a former barrister seems to suggest there are exceptions that could even negate that part of the judgement anyway (apart from the semi-mythical EPL theme tune anyway!). The implications for the value of rights and how they are sold are far from certain as you say, but if any company could ever come out of something like this in a better position it would be sods law it would be SKY... |
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