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Champions League 2011; hello euro knockout phase
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Alpha	Mar 8 2011, 09:57 PM Post #31
Craig Brewster Posts: 398 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: October 3, 2010	A sending off ........... for that even I think that`s harsh and I aint an Arsenal fan



findus	Mar 8 2011, 10:05 PM Post #32
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	That was an atrocious piece of refereeing there, quite possibly cost Arsenal the tie, or at least a shot at penalties. Still, Arsenal were pish and Barca's (P4 W4) open-play goals were sublime.



The Eggman	Mar 8 2011, 10:08 PM Post #33
Tommy McLean Posts: 2,119 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: September 10, 2010	Van Persie knew what he was doing. He's a blatant cheat and could've gone for the slap when he only got booked.



findus	Mar 8 2011, 10:12 PM Post #34
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	The Eggman Mar 8 2011, 10:08 PM Van Persie knew what he was doing. He's a blatant cheat and could've gone for the slap when he only got booked. You mean after Valdes and Abidal both escaped unpunished after trying to strangle him? Valdes is a cock anyhow, I hope he gets poked in the face a lot from now until the end of his career. A lot.



The Eggman	Mar 8 2011, 10:22 PM Post #35
Tommy McLean Posts: 2,119 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: September 10, 2010	findus Mar 8 2011, 10:05 PM That was an atrocious piece of refereeing there, quite possibly cost Arsenal the tie, or at least a shot at penalties. Still, Arsenal were pish and Barca's (P4 W4) open-play goals were sublime. What cost Arsenal a shot at penalties was having 0 shots at goal, while Barca had 19, with 10 on target. Even with van Persie, Arsenal had 35 minutes left to hold put, then another 30 of extra time possible. And Koscielny could easily have been booked for the penalty he gave away, and so sent off.



reekie	Mar 8 2011, 10:29 PM Post #36
lum raker Posts: 3,201 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: September 16, 2010	What cost Arsenal the tie was Bendtner showing why he's 'one of the best strikers in the world'. Actually, he had two sublime moments in the last five minutes.



findus	Mar 8 2011, 10:36 PM Post #37
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	The Eggman Mar 8 2011, 10:22 PM findus Mar 8 2011, 10:05 PM That was an atrocious piece of refereeing there, quite possibly cost Arsenal the tie, or at least a shot at penalties. Still, Arsenal were pish and Barca's (P4 W4) open-play goals were sublime. What cost Arsenal a shot at penalties was having 0 shots at goal, while Barca had 19, with 10 on target. Even with van Persie, Arsenal had 35 minutes left to hold put, then another 30 of extra time possible. And they looked capable of holding out for at least penalties, I thought.



findus	Mar 8 2011, 10:37 PM Post #38
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	reekie Mar 8 2011, 10:29 PM What cost Arsenal the tie was Bendtner showing why he's 'one of the best strikers in the world'. Actually, he had two sublime moments in the last five minutes. Yes, I really don't know what he sees in himself. He should have buried that chance before Mascherano had a chance to tackle him. A poor man's Andis Shala.



IainArab72	Mar 8 2011, 10:38 PM Post #39
Craig Brewster Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #28 Joined: October 2, 2010	No arguments please. Barcelona thoroughly deserved to go through. How they didn't win the first leg totally astounds me. Better players, better tactics and they have Messi. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful player. Arsenal lucky to lose by only 1 goal on aggregate.



findus	Mar 8 2011, 10:47 PM Post #40
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	IainArab72 Mar 8 2011, 10:38 PM No arguments please. Barcelona thoroughly deserved to go through. How they didn't win the first leg totally astounds me. Better players, better tactics and they have Messi. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful player. Arsenal lucky to lose by only 1 goal on aggregate. The voice of reason. Who are they due in the next round?



The Eggman	Mar 8 2011, 10:55 PM Post #41
Tommy McLean Posts: 2,119 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: September 10, 2010	findus Mar 8 2011, 10:36 PM The Eggman Mar 8 2011, 10:22 PM findus Mar 8 2011, 10:05 PM That was an atrocious piece of refereeing there, quite possibly cost Arsenal the tie, or at least a shot at penalties. Still, Arsenal were pish and Barca's (P4 W4) open-play goals were sublime. What cost Arsenal a shot at penalties was having 0 shots at goal, while Barca had 19, with 10 on target. Even with van Persie, Arsenal had 35 minutes left to hold put, then another 30 of extra time possible. And they looked capable of holding out for at least penalties, I thought. You're kidding, surely. They'd already had four players (two defenders) booked before an hour, and Barca were piling on the pressure (and should already have had a penalty in the first half), and Arsenal's equaliser came out of the blue. Also, because Arsenal had been having to defend so much, their players were getting all the more tired. The pressure was only going to increase. Another time the British media blames the foreign ref for one of the British clubs going out. I can see why the ref thought van Persie was time wasting. It's just gone 1-1, van Persie's offside and takes a wild swing from a tight angle with his weaker foot. Had Barca been a few goals up, he wouldn't have had cause to think van Persie was time wasting (and I doubt van Persie would have taken that shot). Anyway, we can agree to disagree.



Morvant's Finest	Mar 9 2011, 01:07 PM Post #42
Tommy McLean Posts: 2,106 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: January 13, 2011	On the balance of play over the two legs it would have been an absolute travesty if Arsenal had gone through. The dominance of Barca in the 1st 70mins of the 1st leg and during 95% of last night's game should be a real wake up call for Wenger. They were of course missing Walcott (who is always dangerous against an out and out attacking team like Barca) and Fabregas and Van Persie weren't fully fit but it was so one sided last night it was like watching Scotland play an Away game at times... By dint of getting an away goal Arsenal made the tie close right to the end but if Barca had taken their chances last night they could easily have scored 6 or 7. If you compare that to when Inter played them last season and restricted Barca to relatively few chances (even when down to 10 men) it shows how far Arsenal have to go to compete at the highest level in the CL. The thing I most enjoy about watching Barcelona play is how close they are as a team, with every member chasing back, no strops and huffs if balls don't get played to them and even "star" players like Messi apologising profusely when they don't make the right decision. Very refreshing to see in a football world populated with the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Torres and Drogba.



Morvant's Finest	Mar 9 2011, 01:13 PM Post #43
Tommy McLean Posts: 2,106 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: January 13, 2011	Nice quote from Guardiola - Quote: "Wenger told me to congratulate the referee," said Guardiola. "The reality is Arsenal were not able to string together three consecutive passes and they were not able to shoot once on goal.



findus	Mar 9 2011, 02:50 PM Post #44
Jerry Kerr Posts: 4,444 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: September 10, 2010	Morvant's Finest Mar 9 2011, 01:13 PM Nice quote from Guardiola - Quote: "Wenger told me to congratulate the referee," said Guardiola. "The reality is Arsenal were not able to string together three consecutive passes and they were not able to shoot once on goal. I think they're both right. Barca (P4 W4) certainly deserved to go through, but Arsenal were hampered by that red card. For all Barca's dominance, Arsenal were a Nikolas 'TIMMMMMYYYYYYYYY!' Bendtner fckup away from going through - to me, this reflects poorly on Barca's inability to convert dominant possession and regaining possession into goals. It's a fanny owd game. Edited by findus*, Mar 9 2011, 02:51 PM.



Anybody	Mar 9 2011, 08:18 PM Post #45
Paul Sturrock Posts: 135 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: September 18, 2010	The way I saw it was that Arsenal were forced (due to Barca's dominance from the start and lack of fully fit strikers) was to contain them and stop them scoring, which they did until very late in the first half. In the second half, they had to score, they pushed up more and got the goal they needed. The sending off (very very soft and unfair, 1 whole second from the whistle to kicking the ball??) yet again, forced them to defend. No need to score if Barca didn't. When they again, had to score, they pushed up again and created a great chance to, which I reckon Van Persie would have probably scored if he were still on the pitch. It wasn't so long ago that Chelsea dominated Barca but couldn't put the ball away, Barca created one or two chances and scored from it. A different reaction from most people from both games. I guess it all comes down to who you prefer.


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